NE: Well rather than give the you know the cliche response that there is hope, what I will tell you is that you’re fully capable of doing something about it, you know. That doesn’t mean it has to be immediate what it does mean is that there are resources and outlets out there for you that can give you the help and support that you need when you’re ready. I think the biggest or I think why TMS was so successful for me was I was willing to accept the change and I had an overwhelming desire to want to feel better you know and to want to start making those changes in myself that aren’t necessarily easy to do.

Dr. W: Yeah.